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Oh The Mega Church Part 2

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The following post is written by two people.  The first, is my fiance.  I love her a lot. The second is written by Aunt Susan. I love her a lot too.

Back at the start of this blog, I wrote a post called “Oh The Mega Church”.  As I re-read this post less than a year and a half later, I am slightly embarrassed.  I’ve wanted to remove it for quite some time, but the point of this blog is to journey together, and to see progress.  This includes the places I’m right and the places I’m wrong.  God has restored a lot of things in my life and part of that is my view of church, and even the mega church.  Through frequently listening to mega church leaders like Andy Stanley, Rob Bell, Francis Chan, Tim Keller, Craig Groeschel, Bill Hybels, Pete Wilson, etc. and seeing a lot of positive change come from these mega churches, my views are much different.  Most of my favorite thinkers and practioners in the church today…are at mega churches.

Is it the flavor of church for me? Nope. But that doesn’t mean I need to be a hater either.

Here is Sarah’s introduction to my aunt’s post: Read More »

Are Our Expectations of Preachers Too High?

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Be vulnerable and honest and personal, but not too personal because this isn’t a therapy session and we need lots of Bible but not too much because it has to relate to what’s happening in our lives and in the world today but it can’t be political and it has to be challenging and deep and significant and at the same time easy for everybody to understand and it has to be funny but not too funny because you’re not a comedian you’re a pastor and while you’re at it mix it up and try new things and don’t get it in a rut but make sure to be consistent and talk about your own struggles, but not too much because that’s depressing.  And we love stories about your family.  But not too many.  That can be weird.  Just be vulnerable and honest and…

Woah.

I must say this quote hit me pretty good. I think I place too many expectations on any given pastor. For some of us who have been in church for a long time, it’s hard not to compare preachers to others or analyze what we would have done or said differently.  I think this is especially true in an age where we have access to all the top preachers on the planet at the tips of our fingers.  Sometimes our expectations of preachers get a little bit ridiculous. Read More »

Where Are You Headed in the Morning?

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My Favorite Easter Ad for 2010. :)

Forgive the Church????

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Here is a quote that Pete posted for all of us who have been hurt by the church from Henry Nouwen:

“When we have been wounded by the Church, our temptation is to reject it. But when we reject the Church it becomes very hard for us to keep in touch with the living Christ. When we say, “I love Jesus, but I hate the Church,” we end up losing not only the Church but Jesus too.

The challenge is to forgive the Church.

This challenge is especially great because the Church seldom asks us for forgiveness, at least not officially. But the Church as an often fallible human organization needs our forgiveness, while the Church as the living Christ among us continues to offer us forgiveness.

It is important to think about the Church not as “over there” but as a community of struggling, weak people of whom we are part and in whom we meet our Lord and Redeemer.”

Thoughts?

transFORM: A Missional Community Formation Network

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What is one of the biggest problems facing the emerging church today?  The likely answer is that there are not many practical communities that are facilitating a truly missional community on a local level.  You read through a book and realize that there are a lot of things of Jesus missing from 95% of the churches out there and it bothers you.  You try to deal with ridiculous teachings and the all around weirdness at these places, but at the end of the day, you just don’t feel comfortable bringing your friends.  Some of the leaders in the video above, however, are creating communities all over the country that are telling of God’s love and his message of redemption for all of Creation.  Steve Knight, my friend who I met in D.C., has started a Ning Community and network where people have begun to share resources, thoughts, videos, songs, and connect all sorts of people who are trying to be justice oriented and help those in need.  It is truly an honor to be a part of.  I have invites for others who would be interested in joining.  Email, text, call (or get a hold of me however you get a hold of people these days) and I will be sure to explain more details about how this network could really change the typical, fundamentalist message to being more focused on the things of Jesus of Nazareth.

Here are some of my favorite quotes from the video which asks questions like, “What does a missional church look like today?”.  What do you like from the video? What do you disagree with? This video is also helpful if you are just interested in exploring progressive, Evangelical Christianity.  It’s good stuff.  God is working and so are his people.

Well if Jesus started a church in our town, what would it look like?

A casual community where people could come as they are.

We don’t use a whole lot of church language.

Active loving relationship with the world around us.

Authentic. Real.

Organic.

An open conversation where you can share your struggles.

I can sit across the table from someone I completely disagree with and still allow them to sit at the same table and say, ‘I love you, still’.

Working together.

This world needs to be brought back to what was intended and that is loving, healthy, whole people that are reconciled to God and to one another.

I’m part of that story (referring to the story of God).

It will be a journey that will wreck you and save you at the same time.

Community is about surrounding ourselves with people who look like the person we want to become.

The most important thing is to have a place where people can come together and hear the Gospel and that you can do that without a lot of hullabaloo around it and it actually ends up really mattering.

Just love people.

Be steered by the people that God brings to you (allow change).

A season of listening was really critical.

Deep passion for justice and for beauty and for truth.  Community is a place to do those things together.

Inform each other of what is happening.

Question everything. Does that actually serve what we are trying to do?

Where did that theology base come from?

Being missional is having an outward focus. How would Jesus welcome them?

It’s okay to fail.

Develop a disciplined life of prayer.

‘Everybody wants a revolution, but nobody wants to do the dishes.’

transFORM – I like that name -  It’s what we’re trying to be and do.

Book Reflection: “Youth Ministry in Small Churches”

youth-min-small-churchesToday I read “Youth Ministry in Small Churches” by Rick Chromey (1990, Zondervan) and took away a lot of valuable, foundational information.  Below are the points that I took away and have adapted for my own understanding.  Hopefully if you are involved in youth ministry this can be of some value to you.

Small Churches vs. Larger Churches Characteristics

Small churches generally make it easier to make close relationships.  I would advocate to utilize this as a strength and don’t let it become a weakness.  Small churches are intergenerational, whereas larger churches have specified demographics (ex/ all church picnic vs. young adult picnic).  Small churches follow a different calendar.  To plan for 100 kids to go on a canoe trip, you need much more time planning out food, lodging, and other details, whereas a youth group of 10 kids can plan that same trip in a couple of days.

Helping Teenagers Become Leaders

The fifth chapter of the book explores many ways of helping to create leaders not only for the youth group, but for the entire church.  There are a list of excuses that youth leaders say as to why this cannot happen, such as, “We just don’t have any kids who can lead worship or teach Sunday school.”  Chromey argues that this is a limited view of leadership and to do the hard work in finding out the real gifts and interests of the students.  Three other excuses include: “But if we let the kids do it, they’ll mess up. Older church members won’t accept the kids’ leadership. Our kids aren’t spiritually mature.”  To this, Chromey responds that there will be mistakes from the students, but if the kids are trying to serve in a variety of capacities, this can also help bring the older saints to being more open to kids helping.  Personally, I think this type of resistance is only seen in unhealthy situations, but I have seen it frequently from older church members.  If the youth are not spiritually mature, part of the problem could be that they have not been thrown into leadership!  A kid cannot learn to swim unless you throw him in the pool.

Chromey goes on by looking at Jesus’ leadership model (which is fairly overused, but was helpful for me in this case).  He advocates that Jesus developed leadership by using everyone, not just a few.  He also realized that there were all different types of people and met them where they were at.  Jesus made leadership fun (fed the 5,000 people) and encouraged his disciples when they did it right.  Finally, Chromey says that Jesus allowed his leaders to fail (ex/ Peter gets out and tries to walk on water).  This is a huge concept, as it can be so frustrating when you put the ball in someone else’s hands and they drop it.  I think this is a balance, as you do not want to continue to give opportunities to an unreliable person, but second chances are important.

Six step process for giving youth responsibility in the church:

1. Identify Needed Gifts. Sometimes it can be tempting to give away the jobs that simply need done.  Make sure that the person fits the job, or the results will be discouraging for everyone.

2. Recruit Young People.

- Can this young person do the job effectively?

- Is the young person reliable enough for the job?

- Is this responsibility the best way to use the young person’s gifts?

- What factors might make it unwise to give this responsibility to this young person?

Rick Chromey goes on to give creative examples of service outside of the typical “usher” or “tear down” (not to minimize those roles) to suggesting that if someone is interested in agriculture, let them get involved with mowing the grass and doing the landscaping.  If they like cars, have them change oil for needy church attenders.  If they are artistic, have them draw some designs for a sermon series.  Putting people in the right place is crucial to the success for everyone. (Again, these are Rick’s thoughts adapted by me).

3. Plan Together. I have noticed personally that whenever I am involved in the planning stages, I feel much more involved and therefore want to make sure I do this in my ministry.  The more people feel they are involved, the more they will invest.

4. Train the Young Person.

5. Support and Consult.

6. Evaluate.

Recruiting Volunteers

Something I found to be a very important thought was to remember to allow other leaders to take leadership, as opposed to just doing it myself.  I could definitely see this becoming a weakness, but I want to create a culture where leaders are trusted, developed, and given the opportunity to step up and…lead!

As far as the actual recruitment process, Chromey identifies how much work it is to try and get people to give their time and talents.  Sometimes they just need to be asked, but other times you really have to hound them.  However, it can not be that annoying hounding, but consistency with getting people excited about the mission is crucial.

There were a bunch of ideas as to actually recruiting the volunteers, but the one that I liked was the “come and try it out” method.  “Just come and join us this week for the youth group meeting.  If you don’t feel comfortable after watching a meeting, I’ll leave you alone.  But I think you’d be great for the group.”

Budgeting for Your Youth Ministry

Finally, the best chapter of the book was on budgeting including how to prepare one, the benefits of doing it, and budget savers.  I won’t get too detailed into this chapter, as I feel it is better just for reference, but page 106 includes some great “Tips for Successful Fund Raisers”.  He advocates that car washes are just overdone, but gift wrapping at the mall during the Christmas season could be much more profitable.  He also says that the fundraisers should be service-oriented.  Donations for baby sitting is a much better idea than a bake sale where the parents end up doing all the cooking.  He also suggested doing a “Trash-a-thon” where church members make pledges for every bag of trash that is picked up (plus, it helps clean up the area and help the environment!).  The final thought that was good to remember was to choose the fundraisers carefully and sparingly.

Final Thoughts

So, overall the book was a really quick read with a solid bunch of nuggets for youth ministries.  The back of the book also has 18 game ideas, which can also be a helpful reference.  If you are a part-time youth leader or new to the ministry, the foundations and reference from “Youth Ministry in Small Churches” is a worthwhile use of a Saturday while watching college football. :)

7 Year Old Steals Car To Avoid Going to Church

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What can we learn from this? Ha! Pretty funny, but a sometimes telling-tale of how people avoid our churches like the plague.